LOVE THIS DISC!It is nice to have something in the bag you can ALWAYS depend on, and this is that disc. Stupid overstable, big beefy rim, super fast and crazy skippy at the finish. The newer molds have a bit more of a dome: so they get a little more glide. If you find a flat top, look out: SHE'S A PIG! If you are ready to step up your game and take things to the next level, learn this disc. You will be glad you did.