asome disc way overstabe,if you have a dog leg it's the disc.i throw back hand and flick.if you have a turn at 150 throw it strait and hard.if you need it longer throw at about a 45 degree ante.great disc if you like throwing overstable.i give it A++++++++
on 11/30/2011
Great Overstable Disc!
These things are great! I just added 80 feet to my thumber with this disc. Great forehand disc. Definitely overstable. Stability falls somewhere between the Flick and the Force, just faster than the Flick.