My Z Pred is one of my most cherished discs. Any time I'm throwing far in a head wind, trying to skip in, or trying to take a left turn around something (RHBH), this disc comes out. It can do SO much. I play a specific hole with this where I have a 250' tunnel with low clearance, and the basket is another 50' hard to the left. It will fly in low, dive left, and skip up to the basket. Incredible disc.